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[[Category:Strikeforces]]
 
[[Category:Strikeforces]]
 
* To root through the different ways we can raise money for our space, where that space should be, and any constraints to our operations. This Strikeforce will examine all the numbers and all the options in order to create a clearer picture of the possibilities for everyone else.
 
* To root through the different ways we can raise money for our space, where that space should be, and any constraints to our operations. This Strikeforce will examine all the numbers and all the options in order to create a clearer picture of the possibilities for everyone else.
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* Leader: AMichael? Ron? Jay?
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* Leader: Jay
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* Members: Ron? Jay? Courtney? G Mike!
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* Members: Mak, A. Michael, Ron, Jay, Courtney, G Mike, Justin
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* Status: Looking through all the different emails for varied arguments.
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* Status: Inactive
  
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==Various Income Suggestions==
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* Free shirt with a new member sign up ( cost ~$20 )
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* More merchandise options like Hats, long sleeve shirts, hoodies, pins, patches, pens, lanyards, etc
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* Sell merchandise at more events like Comicon, Jimcon, secret handshake, etc.
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** This would be easier with things that aren't purely promotional
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* More donation drives!! Each hackathon set a goal and aim to hit it! ( insert giant thermometer here )
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* Partnerships with RRC, U of W, etc as a place for talks to happen that is off campus.
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* More corporate type / level donations
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* Make personal work/storage space available for a fee
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** (Storage would be above and beyond the small normal member project storage area, of course)
  
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** Free shirt with a new member sign up ( cost ~$20 )
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== Ideas for the space itself ==
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** More merchandise options like Hats, long sleeve shirts, hoodies, pins, patches, pens, lanyards, etc
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(Copied raw from [[Projects]])
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** Sell merchandise at more events like Comicon, Jimcon, secret handshake, etc.
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* Lockers for members to lock up projects while they are away.
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** More donation drives!! Each hackathon set a goal and aim to hit it! ( insert giant thermometer here )
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* Carpool system for anyone who wants to participate.
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** Partnerships with RRC, U of W, etc as a place for talks to happen that is off campus.
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* A dropbox for having things shipped to, not everyone can be home to accept UPS deliveries.
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** More corporate type / level donations
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* Member / project pages on the website to show off what we can do.
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* A company credit card for members who don't have one to order parts online with.
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* Bicycle storage (rack or ??)
  
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==Moving to a New Location==
 
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An informal brainstorm on the time and money it would take to move to a new location. This space would likely be empty warehousing.
 
  
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===Step 1: Begin Looking for Space===
 
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Estimate: '''3-12 hours'''
 
  
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Notes:
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== Ideas for raising money at SkullSpace: ==
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* Time totally depends on how quickly we find a space. We could find a space almost immediately or it may take us weeks/months. 3-12 hours is an estimate given a week of considering spaces.
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(Copied raw from [[Projects]])
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* Project bounties
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===Step 2: SkullSpace Discussion/Vote; Deal with Landlord===
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** People can request projects on the website and members can vote on what projects to build.
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Estimate: '''15-20 hours'''
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* Paid workshops for the public
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** Have 4 hour sessions on the basics of electronics / programing / linux etc. for a small fee per person. Also group rates.
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Notes:
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* [[DEFCON donation box]]
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* Time to thoroughly discuss and hear proposals, announce proposals and set a vote date, hold vote
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* Drink more soda & buy more food.  (we have freezies!)
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* Sign paperwork with landlord, set up method of payment for rent, discussion with landlord
 
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===Step 3: Develop/Approve New Floor Plan===
 
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Estimate: '''10-15 hours'''
 
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Notes:
 
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* Likely, a new space could be an open space with pillars, much like how SkullSpace was when we first moved in. We would need to measure the new space and most likely draft a CAD plan
 
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* Lengthy discussion of how we should divide space for which room, which "services" we would provide (lounge? classroom? dark room?)
 
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* Presentation of floor plans and vote by membership
 
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===Step 4: Move to New Space===
 
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Estimate: '''60-120 hours'''
 
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Notes:
 
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* This is a very rough estimate. This is assuming we have five dedicated people who are willing to move stuff at least once a week for eight hours.
 
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* Allow $200 for getting some kind of large truck/trailer to move things
 
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* Allow 6 hours and three dump trips @ $11/trip to dispose of materials that we deem trash/not keeping/need to dispose of such as furniture, etc.
 
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* Are we able to negotiate early access with the new landlord to begin moving stuff in before we have to pay? The current landlord did not allow this so we need to at least consider that for one month we may have a double-rent issue, where we're paying our current rent and the rent at the new location. Allow $1000 as a conservative estimate for this.
 
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===Step 5: Remove Networking/Data/Security Lines, for Use at New Location===
 
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Estimate: '''20 hours'''
 
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Notes:
 
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* All CAT5 currently in the space and the server room
 
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* Door entry equipment from door frames and data lines for them
 
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* Allow $200 if we need to get our own software to operate the door access system; currently we are using AssentWorks' software
 
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===Step 6: Insurance/Paperwork Updating===
 
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Estimate: '''3 hours'''
 
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===Step 7: Occupancy/Building Permits===
 
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Estimate: '''5 hours'''
 
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Notes:
 
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* Do we go the "legal" route and obtain permits, or do it on the fly to save money?
 
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* We would need to apply, submit printed plans to the city, and pay for permits
 
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* Allow at least $200 for both permits as a conservative estimate
 
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===Step 8: Build New Space to Suit===
 
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Estimate: '''85-265 hours'''
 
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Notes:
 
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* A very rough estimate again because we don't know where we're going. It may be an open space needing walls and electrical and heat distribution, or we may take over a space with existing rooms that we somehow make do with
 
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* Construction of walls, deletion of walls we don't want, modifying of existing walls, running electrical in walls estimated at 10-100 hours, and $0-3000, with a much higher (estimate a few thousand more) number than $3000 if we require a professional electrician to do the work
 
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* Distribution of heat? Installation of baseboard heaters? Ducting? Estimate included in note about walls above
 
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* Wiring of new door access control hardware and system. Estimate 15-20 hours
 
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* Lighting may be required if it doesn't suit our needs, or if we build new rooms. Estimate 0-80 hours and $0-1000 if we do the work (running cabling, installing) and estimate more if an electrician is required to do the work
 
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* Installation of new networking cables/data lines. Estimate 60 hours. Colin has stated that if we move he won't be eager to do this work and won't do it alone.
 
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* Installation of electronic strike/access control at outside door. Estimate $800-1000. This is what it cost for us to get the door at 125 Adelaide modified to use an electric strike, and we split the cost with AssentWorks. We can't take it with us if we were to move
 
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* Set up internet access. Estimate 5 hours if we do the work. We have no idea if the building we get into has a direct line of sight to VOI's towers, or even if we could relocate our internet to the new location. We may require a tower on the roof again and that is subject to the new landlord's approval.
 
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===Total===
 
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Grand total estimate: '''203-460 hours, $1000-$6600'''
 
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===Conclusions===
 
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The dollar estimate assumes at the low end we have to get a truck and a new front door. The high end assumes all costs, that we have to extensively renovate the new space, obtain permits, software for doors, etc. Likely, the real number is somewhere in the middle of this estimate. Already, we are into step one, where we are now looking for space
 
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==Keeping Our Current Location==
 
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===Numbers===
 
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* $2500-$3000 for previous electrical bills, which may be able to be paid off over a longer period of time. At 3 years, $69.40-$83.30/month. At 2 years, $104.17-$125/mo. At one year, $208.33-$250/mo.
 
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* 10-20 hours to remove a few sets of doors and insulate some walls
 
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* Estimate $3000-$5000 for electrical renovations, a cost which doesn't need to be spent all at once (we could do room by room)
 
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* $1000-$1200 for a proper electrical metering solution that splits the cost between AssentWorks and SkullSpace
 
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===Total===
 
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Grand total estimate to stay: '''10-20 hours, $6500-$9000'''
 
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===Summary===
 
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I welcome any debate on these numbers and expect revisions and different opinions.
 

Latest revision as of 02:02, 12 March 2014

  • To root through the different ways we can raise money for our space, where that space should be, and any constraints to our operations. This Strikeforce will examine all the numbers and all the options in order to create a clearer picture of the possibilities for everyone else.
  • Leader: Jay
  • Members: Mak, A. Michael, Ron, Jay, Courtney, G Mike, Justin
  • Status: Inactive

Various Income Suggestions

  • Free shirt with a new member sign up ( cost ~$20 )
  • More merchandise options like Hats, long sleeve shirts, hoodies, pins, patches, pens, lanyards, etc
  • Sell merchandise at more events like Comicon, Jimcon, secret handshake, etc.
    • This would be easier with things that aren't purely promotional
  • More donation drives!! Each hackathon set a goal and aim to hit it! ( insert giant thermometer here )
  • Partnerships with RRC, U of W, etc as a place for talks to happen that is off campus.
  • More corporate type / level donations
  • Make personal work/storage space available for a fee
    • (Storage would be above and beyond the small normal member project storage area, of course)

Ideas for the space itself

(Copied raw from Projects)

  • Lockers for members to lock up projects while they are away.
  • Carpool system for anyone who wants to participate.
  • A dropbox for having things shipped to, not everyone can be home to accept UPS deliveries.
  • Member / project pages on the website to show off what we can do.
  • A company credit card for members who don't have one to order parts online with.
  • Bicycle storage (rack or ??)


Ideas for raising money at SkullSpace:

(Copied raw from Projects)

  • Project bounties
    • People can request projects on the website and members can vote on what projects to build.
  • Paid workshops for the public
    • Have 4 hour sessions on the basics of electronics / programing / linux etc. for a small fee per person. Also group rates.
  • DEFCON donation box
  • Drink more soda & buy more food. (we have freezies!)
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