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* Leader: Jay
 
* Leader: Jay
 
* Members: Mak, A. Michael, Ron, Jay, Courtney, G Mike, Justin
 
* Members: Mak, A. Michael, Ron, Jay, Courtney, G Mike, Justin
* Status: Looking at fund-raising possibilities, to find out what we can afford.
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* Status: Inactive
  
 
==Various Income Suggestions==
 
==Various Income Suggestions==
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** (Storage would be above and beyond the small normal member project storage area, of course)
 
** (Storage would be above and beyond the small normal member project storage area, of course)
  
==Keeping Our Current Location==
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== Ideas for the space itself ==
This proposal is no longer active. We're gone as of 12:00am, Dec 1st.
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* Lockers for members to lock up projects while they are away.
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* Carpool system for anyone who wants to participate.
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* A dropbox for having things shipped to, not everyone can be home to accept UPS deliveries.
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* Member / project pages on the website to show off what we can do.
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* A company credit card for members who don't have one to order parts online with.
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* Bicycle storage (rack or ??)
  
===Numbers===
 
* About $750-$1500 for previous electrical bills, plus old rent level?
 
* 10-20 hours to remove a few sets of doors and insulate some walls
 
* $1000-$1200 for a proper electrical metering solution that splits the cost between AssentWorks and SkullSpace
 
* We'd only be there for three months before leaving anyway
 
  
===Total===
 
Grand total estimate to stay: '''10-20 hours, $1750-$2700'''
 
  
==374 Donald==
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== Ideas for raising money at SkullSpace: ==
* Actually is Doran
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* A rare find: finished space, and fairly large, for a fairly cheap price
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* Project bounties
* Two washrooms, a shower, good kitchen space, new windows, good lighting, right beside Yellow Dog Tavern
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** People can request projects on the website and members can vote on what projects to build.
* We may need to find a way to monetize some of the space for a year or two, until our membership expands enough to own it without problems.
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* Paid workshops for the public
 
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** Have 4 hour sessions on the basics of electronics / programing / linux etc. for a small fee per person. Also group rates.
===Step 1: Begin Looking for Space===
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* [[DEFCON donation box]]
Yeah, we found it.
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* Drink more soda & buy more food. (we have freezies!)
 
 
===Step 2: SkullSpace Discussion/Vote; Deal with Landlord===
 
Estimate: '''15-20 hours'''
 
 
 
Notes:
 
* Time to thoroughly discuss and hear proposals, announce proposals and set a vote date, hold vote
 
* Sign paperwork with landlord, set up method of payment for rent, discussion with landlord
 
* We haven't gotten anything more than boilerplate, at this point. We need to find out if directors are liable, in order to justify the risk.
 
 
 
===Step 3: Develop/Approve New Floor Plan===
 
Estimate: '''1-3 hours'''
 
 
 
Notes:
 
* We cannot alter the existing walls, so hanging walls or standalone walls will be had.
 
* Lengthy discussion of how we should divide space for which room, which "services" we would provide (lounge? classroom? dark room?)
 
* Presentation of floor plans and vote by membership
 
 
 
===Step 4: Move to New Space===
 
Estimate: '''60-120 hours'''
 
 
 
Notes:
 
* This is a very rough estimate. This is assuming we have five dedicated people who will each move stuff for between two and five eight-hour days.
 
* Allow $200 for getting some kind of large truck/trailer to move things
 
* Allow 6 hours and three dump trips @ $11/trip to dispose of materials that we deem as trash or that we otherwise need to dispose of, such as furniture, etc.
 
** Or leave what we don't need at the old space
 
* Are we able to negotiate early access with the new landlord? We need to be out by the end of November, so we're going to need that week to start moving stuff in.
 
 
 
===Step 5: Remove Networking/Data/Security Lines, for Use at New Location===
 
Estimate: '''20 hours'''
 
 
 
Notes:
 
* All CAT5 currently in the space and the server room
 
* Door entry equipment from door frames and data lines for them
 
* Allow $200 if we need to get our own software to operate the door access system; currently we are using AssentWorks' software
 
 
 
===Step 6: Insurance/Paperwork Updating===
 
Estimate: '''3 hours'''
 
 
 
===Step 7: Occupancy/Building Permits===
 
Estimate: '''5 hours'''
 
Notes:
 
* Do we go the "legal" route and obtain permits, or do it on the fly to save money?
 
* There's really not much to do with building, so what's necessary?
 
 
 
===Step 8: Build New Space to Suit===
 
Estimate: '''10-40 hours'''
 
Notes:
 
* Construction of standalone or hanging walls
 
* Running electrical in walls? Extension cords? Could work
 
* We have all the raw material we need already at the old space
 
* Wiring of new door access control hardware and system. Estimate 15-20 hours
 
** Installation of electronic strike/access control at outside door. Estimate $800-1000. This is what it cost for us to get the door at 125 Adelaide modified to use an electric strike, and we split the cost with AssentWorks. We can't take it with us if we were to move
 
** We will probably do these after a few months, as funds allow
 
* Installation of new networking cables/data lines. Estimate 60 hours. Colin has stated that if we move he won't be eager to do this work and won't do it alone.
 
* Set up internet access. Estimate 5 hours if we do the work. We have no idea if the building we get into has a direct line of sight to VOI's towers, but we should have approval to install a tower on the roof.
 
 
 
===Total===
 
 
 
Grand total estimate: '''xxx-yyy hours, $aaaa-$bbbb'''
 
* Just... add the stuff above, when time permits
 
 
 
===Conclusions===
 
 
 
The moving costs aren't prohibitive, but we have to look carefully at the lease. If we can get it at $2000/month, which seems pretty likely, we should be able to squeeze it into our budget. If we got it for such a low price, we must expect that it would rise to $2200/month or $2500/month after the lease ends. It's well within or capacity, though, if we work hard throughout the lease to increase membership levels and discover other opportunities for funding.
 

Latest revision as of 02:02, 12 March 2014

  • To root through the different ways we can raise money for our space, where that space should be, and any constraints to our operations. This Strikeforce will examine all the numbers and all the options in order to create a clearer picture of the possibilities for everyone else.
  • Leader: Jay
  • Members: Mak, A. Michael, Ron, Jay, Courtney, G Mike, Justin
  • Status: Inactive

Various Income Suggestions

  • Free shirt with a new member sign up ( cost ~$20 )
  • More merchandise options like Hats, long sleeve shirts, hoodies, pins, patches, pens, lanyards, etc
  • Sell merchandise at more events like Comicon, Jimcon, secret handshake, etc.
    • This would be easier with things that aren't purely promotional
  • More donation drives!! Each hackathon set a goal and aim to hit it! ( insert giant thermometer here )
  • Partnerships with RRC, U of W, etc as a place for talks to happen that is off campus.
  • More corporate type / level donations
  • Make personal work/storage space available for a fee
    • (Storage would be above and beyond the small normal member project storage area, of course)

Ideas for the space itself

(Copied raw from Projects)

  • Lockers for members to lock up projects while they are away.
  • Carpool system for anyone who wants to participate.
  • A dropbox for having things shipped to, not everyone can be home to accept UPS deliveries.
  • Member / project pages on the website to show off what we can do.
  • A company credit card for members who don't have one to order parts online with.
  • Bicycle storage (rack or ??)


Ideas for raising money at SkullSpace:

(Copied raw from Projects)

  • Project bounties
    • People can request projects on the website and members can vote on what projects to build.
  • Paid workshops for the public
    • Have 4 hour sessions on the basics of electronics / programing / linux etc. for a small fee per person. Also group rates.
  • DEFCON donation box
  • Drink more soda & buy more food. (we have freezies!)